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	<title>Comments on: Adult Games Needn&#8217;t Be Profane</title>
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		<title>By: malcolmb</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>malcolmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like what the creator of Fable had in mind when he was designing that game.  Though of course the final product was probably modified to be easier to understand and to play for the final audience.

Either way when first selling a game like this to an audience, communicating how all of this complexity will still make for a game that&#039;s fun and rewarding might prove difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like what the creator of Fable had in mind when he was designing that game.  Though of course the final product was probably modified to be easier to understand and to play for the final audience.</p>
<p>Either way when first selling a game like this to an audience, communicating how all of this complexity will still make for a game that&#8217;s fun and rewarding might prove difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: emeraldtablet</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>emeraldtablet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the server is going to be THOG.

I would also like to try out a PvP server as well -- any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the server is going to be THOG.</p>
<p>I would also like to try out a PvP server as well &#8212; any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Talyn</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Talyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch you did *not* just mention DDO on Troy&#039;s own blog? It&#039;s a good thing he doesn&#039;t read his comments very often. He went off on a pretty good anti-DDO rant awhile back in guild chat.

*teases Troy*

I&#039;d consider joining myself but... damn... do they have to call it &quot;Old Timer&#039;s&quot; guild? I&#039;m an adult and all, but... &quot;old timer?&quot; Not by a longshot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch you did *not* just mention DDO on Troy&#8217;s own blog? It&#8217;s a good thing he doesn&#8217;t read his comments very often. He went off on a pretty good anti-DDO rant awhile back in guild chat.</p>
<p>*teases Troy*</p>
<p>I&#8217;d consider joining myself but&#8230; damn&#8230; do they have to call it &#8220;Old Timer&#8217;s&#8221; guild? I&#8217;m an adult and all, but&#8230; &#8220;old timer?&#8221; Not by a longshot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptor</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Cryptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy you are going to play AoC ?!  Great news !  I have been listening to all of your podcasts starting with the first ones you did for Virginworlds.

We would be honored if you would take a look at The Oldtimers Guild ( http://www.oldtimersguild.com/ ) and perhaps join us in AoC ;)  I would join you on whatever server you choose in a second but I have been playing with OTG since beta of DDO and made some great friends ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy you are going to play AoC ?!  Great news !  I have been listening to all of your podcasts starting with the first ones you did for Virginworlds.</p>
<p>We would be honored if you would take a look at The Oldtimers Guild ( <a href="http://www.oldtimersguild.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldtimersguild.com/</a> ) and perhaps join us in AoC <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   I would join you on whatever server you choose in a second but I have been playing with OTG since beta of DDO and made some great friends <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scytale2</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>scytale2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adults are a broad church.  Some never progress past shootemups, some don&#039;t like thinking at all, some revel in sex and violence, others revel in creativity and social aspects of gaming.  Some reject games completely.

So, whilst the topic is a good one, I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve scratched the surface.

I think the answer is possibly in books and films.  There are defined children&#039;s book and adult books - children would find an adult book a bit boring or too hard to understand, an adult would find a children&#039;s book to &quot;fantastic&quot;, banal or simplistic.

With films, some children&#039;s films are incredibly slow moving and repetitive for adults, whilst adult action movies have often very limited appeal to children, because they don&#039;t understand the plot.

Games may have other nuances to them.  For instance I think you address the whole issue of interactivity, which you don&#039;t (currently) get with films and to a lesser extent books.  In games you have an avatar, so one must discover what an adult would want to do with that avatar and what would a child want to do?  What differences are there?

Children are protected from sexual themes and nudity rightly, but they certainly have a different type of interest in these subjects.  Children go to school and learn and improve, adults go to work and some do the same thing for 40 years+.  Adults have many more decisions to make and &quot;life-balancing&quot; than children, but children are much more impacted by good and bad things that happen to them emotionally.

So what does all this mean? There is clearly a distinctiveness - a market - between mature adults and children, then adolescents and young adults.

In the immature world of gaming, though, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s been addressed yet.  Probably because the industry gurus are, in the main, immature adults, who have never grown up, which may not be a bad thing:)

Lastly, the rather interesting niche market of boardgamers is almost exclusively mature adults, 90% men too.  Does this teach us anything about MMO or videogames?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adults are a broad church.  Some never progress past shootemups, some don&#8217;t like thinking at all, some revel in sex and violence, others revel in creativity and social aspects of gaming.  Some reject games completely.</p>
<p>So, whilst the topic is a good one, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve scratched the surface.</p>
<p>I think the answer is possibly in books and films.  There are defined children&#8217;s book and adult books &#8211; children would find an adult book a bit boring or too hard to understand, an adult would find a children&#8217;s book to &#8220;fantastic&#8221;, banal or simplistic.</p>
<p>With films, some children&#8217;s films are incredibly slow moving and repetitive for adults, whilst adult action movies have often very limited appeal to children, because they don&#8217;t understand the plot.</p>
<p>Games may have other nuances to them.  For instance I think you address the whole issue of interactivity, which you don&#8217;t (currently) get with films and to a lesser extent books.  In games you have an avatar, so one must discover what an adult would want to do with that avatar and what would a child want to do?  What differences are there?</p>
<p>Children are protected from sexual themes and nudity rightly, but they certainly have a different type of interest in these subjects.  Children go to school and learn and improve, adults go to work and some do the same thing for 40 years+.  Adults have many more decisions to make and &#8220;life-balancing&#8221; than children, but children are much more impacted by good and bad things that happen to them emotionally.</p>
<p>So what does all this mean? There is clearly a distinctiveness &#8211; a market &#8211; between mature adults and children, then adolescents and young adults.</p>
<p>In the immature world of gaming, though, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s been addressed yet.  Probably because the industry gurus are, in the main, immature adults, who have never grown up, which may not be a bad thing:)</p>
<p>Lastly, the rather interesting niche market of boardgamers is almost exclusively mature adults, 90% men too.  Does this teach us anything about MMO or videogames?</p>
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		<title>By: Talyn</title>
		<link>http://emeraldtablet.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/adult-games-neednt-be-profane/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Talyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;ve seen so far is ZOMG BLOODZ and BOOBZ so... somehow I think Funcom still thinks games are for kids, despite the M rating they&#039;re aiming for. Junior High kids world-wide might be drawn to it, but I don&#039;t know about &quot;adults.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;ve seen so far is ZOMG BLOODZ and BOOBZ so&#8230; somehow I think Funcom still thinks games are for kids, despite the M rating they&#8217;re aiming for. Junior High kids world-wide might be drawn to it, but I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;adults.&#8221;</p>
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